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Janie Spahr, a retired Presbyterian minister, grandmother, and lesbian, chats with Annanda Barclay, associate pastor of the First Presbyterian Church Palo Alto. Janie is a fierce advocate for love. For some this love is a challenge. For others it has become a foundation.

For all of us, Janie is a force. You can almost see this energy as she responds to Annanda and reflects on the many people in her life who have helped her to understand the “connecting power of relationality”.